Missionary Training Center

Objection 10 of 21

Grace vs works

Saved by grace. Judged by works. James is still in their Bible. 2 Nephi 25:23 in context is faith in Christ.

The objection

Mormonism is works-based. Grace plus ordinances. Paul said faith alone.

  • They quote · Ephesians 2:8–9

    “By grace are ye saved through faith… not of works, lest any man should boast.”

  • They quote · 2 Nephi 25:23

    “It is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.”

From the Bible

They say

Ephesians 2:8–9 — not of works. You added ordinances.

Keep reading. Ephesians 2:10: we are created for good works. James 2 says faith without works is dead — the only “faith alone” sentence in the Bible is James denying it. In the New Testament, faith means trust and loyalty, not agreeing with an idea. Their churches still baptize even when they say baptism does not save.

  • Ephesians 2:8–10

    KJV · For by grace are ye saved through faith… Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works.

    NRSVUE · For by grace you have been saved through faith… not the result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works.

  • James 2:17, 24

    KJV · Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. … Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    NRSVUE · So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. … You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.

From the Book of Mormon

They say

2 Nephi 25:23 — after all we can do. You earn it.

Read 2 Nephi 25:20–29, not the meme. In that chapter, ‘all we can do’ is look to Christ, believe in Him, and keep His commandments after we are reconciled. 2 Nephi 31:19: relying wholly upon the merits of Him who is mighty to save. Strip the verse of its chapter and they would be right. They know how to read James in context. Ask them to read Nephi the same way.

  • 2 Nephi 25:23, 26

    It is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do. … And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ… that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.

  • 2 Nephi 31:19

    Ye have not come thus far save it were by the word of Christ with unshaken faith in him, relying wholly upon the merits of him who is mighty to save.

From modern revelation

They say

Your church is a points program: baptism, temple, checklists.

D&C 20:29–31: justification and sanctification both come through the grace of Jesus Christ. Preach My Gospel’s path is Acts 2:37–38 — faith, repentance, baptism, the Holy Ghost, endure to the end. That is the gospel of Jesus Christ, not earning heaven by a checklist.

  • Doctrine and Covenants 20:29–31

    Justification through the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is just and true; And we know also, that sanctification through the grace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is just and true.

From faithful sources

From Preach My Gospel

Lesson 3 — The Gospel of Jesus Christ

“Faith in Jesus Christ, repentance, baptism, receiving the Holy Ghost, and enduring to the end. We are saved by the grace of Jesus Christ.”

Teach the gospel as a path, not as earning heaven. Invite baptism as an act of faith.

Open Preach My Gospel

Suggested videos

Faithful voices only. Most of these are independent — not official Church productions unless marked as such.

Restored Truth (Chandler Hendry)

Why LDS Theology Makes More Sense Than You Think

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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

Baptism for the Dead | Now You Know

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Missionary Discussions (Travis Anderson)

Again With The Thief on the Cross?

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