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Quakers on the Moon

Did Joseph Smith teach that people live on the moon, dressed like Quakers?

Bible

They quote this

Bible · Deuteronomy 18:20–22

KJV + NRSVUE

King James Version

But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak… even that prophet shall die. … When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken.

NRSVUE

But any prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded the prophet to speak… that prophet shall die. … If a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD but the thing does not take place or prove true, it is a word that the LORD has not spoken.

Our explanation

They hang a false-prophet verse on a rumor. The test is speech in the Lord’s name — not Oliver Huntington’s notebook.

How we read it

Deuteronomy 18 is about a prophet who presumes to speak in YHWH’s name. A third-hand 1881 memory of a conversation is not that.

The Bible answers

Bible · Proverbs 18:13

KJV + NRSVUE

King James Version

He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

NRSVUE

If one gives answer before hearing, it is folly and shame.

Our explanation

Answer after you hear the matter. Most memes never open the journal.

Bible · 1 Thessalonians 5:21

KJV + NRSVUE

King James Version

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

NRSVUE

but test everything; hold fast to what is good;

Our explanation

Prove all things. Proven: not canon, not first-hand, not taught.

Modern Revelation

Doctrine and Covenants 1:24–28

Behold, I am God and have spoken it; these commandments are of me, and were given unto my servants in their weakness, after the manner of their language, that they might come to understanding. And inasmuch as they erred it might be made known… And inasmuch as they sought wisdom they might be instructed.

Our explanation

Even real commandments came in weakness. We already have a category for human language. This quote does not even rise to it.

Doctrine and Covenants 68:4

And whatsoever they shall speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost shall be scripture, shall be the will of the Lord, shall be the mind of the Lord, shall be the word of the Lord, shall be the voice of the Lord, and the power of God unto salvation.

Our explanation

Scripture is what they speak when moved upon by the Holy Ghost. A remembered cosmology chat is not that.

Articles of Faith 1:9

We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.

Our explanation

We believe what God has revealed. We did not sustain moon-Quakers.

Faithful answers

FAIR

Did Joseph Smith say the moon was inhabited by people dressed like Quakers?

FAIR Latter-day Saints

The line comes from Oliver B. Huntington. In 1881 he wrote that Philo Dibble had described Joseph talking about lunar inhabitants — about six feet tall, Quaker-style dress, living near a thousand years. Huntington was remembering Dibble remembering something from roughly the 1830s–40s. That is third-hand, forty to fifty years late, with no contemporary diary from Joseph, no sermon, no revelation. Huntington later published a version in the Young Woman’s Journal (1892) and tied it to his own 1837 patriarchal blessing about preaching to ‘inhabitants of the moon.’ A blessing remembered that way is still not a First Presidency letter. 19th-century astronomers, including William Herschel, openly guessed that the moon and even the sun were inhabited. Brigham Young’s later remark about the sun belongs in that same popular cosmology, not in the canon. The Church has never taught moon-Quakers as doctrine. Apollo did not falsify a standard work we never had.

A late third-hand journal is not a prophecy. It is a 19th-century rumor with Quaker clothing on it.

  • One source. Decades late. Not Joseph’s hand. Not in the Standard Works.
  • Famous Christian scientists of that century said similar things about the moon.
  • Deuteronomy 18 tests speech in the Lord’s name — not a cousin’s memory of a conversation.
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Saints Unscripted

Do Latter-day Saints Really Believe That?

Saints Unscripted

This is a meme because it sounds insane if you skip the footnote. The footnote is: not first-hand, not canon, not taught. Members who met the quote in a PDF were supposed to feel embarrassed for a church that never put it in a lesson manual. Ask what we actually sustain: four standard works and living prophets. Then ask whether your own great-grandparents’ astronomy sermons are the test of your pastor.

We do not believe Quakers live on the moon. We never did as a people. A journal is not a creed.

  • If it is not in the standard works and not taught over the pulpit, it is not our gospel.
  • The cousin claim — Brigham and the sun — is the same class: JoD cosmology, not D&C.
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